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Post #1 (Sep 17 2009, 01:30 PM)
alice006
City: Eden Prairie


I think we should be able to see who has rated our outfits. It seems there is a "1" virus going around. I see many outfits that look perfectly fine, even stylish! Yet somebody has the audacity to give them a 1.
People should not rate 1's on outfits just because it is not their style. If somebody likes wearing leather pants and thigh high boots, they shouldn't rate a business person who has to wear a suit and blouse a 1.
I think if we got rid of the anonymous rating system it would make people a little less catty and own up to their opinion.

Perhaps that would turn it into an "If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" kind of rating system.
 
 
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Post #2 (Sep 17 2009, 02:37 PM)
Chris
City: New York


Thanks for the feedback, Alice. It's a good point you make. What do the rest of you think? Tell me how you'd like it to work. Thanks!! xx Chris
 
 
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Post #3 (Sep 17 2009, 04:57 PM)


I think it could work, (changing the rating system to one that is not anonymous). I hope everyone realizes that if you truly love fashion you can still appreciate that styles that are not your own may be put together well for those who love them! I agree with Alice, if you hate something because it's not you-good news-you don't have to wear it! Keep your bad ratings to yourself if that's what they represent! Leave a comment if you feel the need to rate something badly for good reason-or keep it to yourself!!! So much of style is personal that there's no point rating by hating! I love a girl who is trying... and a girl who is trying to express who she really is through clothes , it's not always easy! Respect your fashion loving sisters!
 
 
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Post #4 (Sep 17 2009, 05:53 PM)
vinaholly
City: London


i think it could be both good and bad - i think its good becaue it would potentially stop the 1-fests going on and it would be nice to see who likes your style

but could alo have a negative effect - if someone was given a rating that they werent completely satisfied with then they could get a bit bitter and go take it out on that person outfits.

also people would be more afraid to rate the outfits honestly - if someone thinks something actually deserves a 1 (brutal and rare, but it happens) then they shouldnt feel threatenend to do so.

if people have such a huge problem with being rated a 1 then maybe this isnt the website for them becaue on a scale of 1 - 5 there i always going to be a 1 im afraid.....

maybe people are just taking it a bit personally. there have been numerous occasions in the past when ive been given 1's and thought it mean and unfair, but when looking back on it a while later decided that i wouldnt have even given it that! lots of huge "what WAS i thinking!?" and "jesus christ where the HELL is the delete button!?" moments.

in the end, unfortunatley, youre never gonna please everyone xxx
 
 
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Post #5 (Sep 17 2009, 11:27 PM)
Dsptchkity
City: Atlanta


I agree with Vinaholly. I have been slammed with 1's, usually when my avatar appears on "the list". It can be a bit jarring. In retrospect though I can see where, in some cases, the rater was correct. I just wish I had seen the [rating] light before the outfit saw the light of day.

In a perfect world, any rating below a 3 would come with corrective suggestions, Having said that - I think some would be as offended by the suggestion as they were by the rating. You can't please everyone.


Kitty
 
 
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Post #6 (Sep 18 2009, 05:20 AM)
mkw013000
City: West PA


I think the slew of 1's comes from a mix of maliciousness, differences in style and some that are genuinely bad and someone is trying to make a point of bringing it to our attention. In my opinion, a 1 is a bit harsh and I rarely see a user or outfit on this site that is so bad I'd consider it the worst you could do. If I think there's something that would help I'd try to offer constructive criticism. Unfortunately you can't regulate users for their behaviors on such things.

The comment about how some people shouldn't be on this site if they're not ok with 1's - I think people use this site in different ways. Some use it to get feedback on outfits and some use it completely for themselves and really don't want other people's opinions unless it's positive.

Maybe you could allow the option on each outfit you post whether or not you want to allow ratings, that way if you want feedback (good or bad) you get it and if you don't care what anyone else thinks it removes the option. I think this would be a great addition either way.

Regardless of whether you show the raters you're going to have problems. If you don't change the system, things will remain the same. If you do, I'm sure you will have a run of retaliatory ratings but at least you'd know who was lashing out and could possibly address it if it were excessive. Personally I'd love to see who rates my outfits. I could see if our styles differ and maybe that's why they didn't like it or if we have similar styles I could seriously rethink what to do with an outfit. I know it's a learning curve for me and I want to crawl and hide from outfits I made when I was first on the site.

One thing I will mention, I think it's sad that because of the low ratings people refuse to use this site. I know 2 people who don't post outfits or use the site even though they'd like to because they don't like being told that everyone thinks their outfits are 1's. It's a shame. I think this site is a great tool for learning how things go together and getting new ideas.
 
 
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Post #7 (Sep 18 2009, 05:29 AM)
alice006
City: Eden Prairie


I like the idea of having a mandatory comment for low ratings. If you're going to take the time to hate it, you'd better tell me why! And you could make a suggestion on how to make it better. "Your outfit would look better without acid wash jeans", stuff like that.

I also like the idea of having an option to not have your outfits rated. A lot of times I just put together outfits to show my friends what I'm wearing. It's not meant to be stylish or always well put together, just hey, this is what I wore.

 
 
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Post #8 (Sep 18 2009, 06:10 AM)
vinaholly
City: London


ooh yeah like on ebay where if you give someone a rating you have to put why....... it could discourage SOME people to rate because of the effort of having to write aswell, BUT it would make the ratings more helpful as a whole.
 
 
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Post #9 (Sep 18 2009, 06:21 AM)
alice006
City: Eden Prairie


It could just be for 1 and 2 ratings. That way the rating would be constructive. If I've ever gotten a 1, I usually sit there, scratch my head and wonder why. Without the constructive criticism to go with it, it just comes off as mean-spirited.
 
 
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Post #10 (Sep 18 2009, 07:39 AM)
Chris
City: New York


Ladies, I think we have figured out a solution here at CC HQ. Your input, as always, has guided this conversation, and I think you are going to like it - and you are for sure going to tell me if you do not.

We have to wait until the next build to roll it out or else Sheldon will physically explode, so give us about 2 weeks to implement.

One thing that we do allow currently is for guests (non-members) to rate the outfits. I suspect this is where some (not all) of the ones are coming from. We have also reached out to members who frequently given negative ratings and managed the situation as we recognize it.

You all are fabulous for letting me and all of us at CC know what you want. Keep it coming, this site is for you.

xx Chris
 
 
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Post #11 (Mar 17 2010, 05:00 PM)
Lcs
City: USA


I think the idea of having to explain why you rated something is ok. But, then you have to consider that there will still probably be people who will just put a space or single character in the explanation area in order to easily leave a bad rating.

Also, along the lines of outfit rating, I am not completely fond of the way that the ratings you give impact your "most active" rating. I was told before that if you give a lower rating on an outfit, that it will lower your rating on the list. So, while there are people out there who are giving low ratings in order to lower another person's "stylishness", they are also lowering their own ratings. Also, members may give higher ratings than they believe an outfit has earned in order to help their own ratings. Is this system still in place?

Kind of off topic, but related to the "most active list"...I am not fond of the way that people can get on the most active list. It is obvious that the number of items in your closet affects this. However, it is sometimes frustrating to see that some people don't own a single item they have in their closet, but they end up in the top spots on the most active list. It would be understandable to have a few items you don't own in order to place them in outfits to see if you really want to buy it...but a whole closet full of hundreds of items you don't own earning you a spot on the list is kind of annoying to people who do take the time and money to fill their actual closets.
 
 
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Post #12 (Apr 2 2010, 06:22 PM)
Miss_P
City: Brisbane Queensland, Australia


I don't really understand the "rating" thing and not really sure how it works.
I use the comment section at the bottom as I think it's nice to leave someone a compliment.

LCS - i under stand your frustration with the 'most active list' and maybe it should be removed to take away competition. BUT as I said in my other post in these forums...it takes all sorts to make this site a success. Everyone has their perspective and their reason for using this site. I only have my actual items I own in mine but others use it for entertainment or to create lots of inspiring outfits.
Have fun with it and enjoy :)
 
 
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Post #13 (Apr 3 2010, 05:47 AM)
Chris
City: New York


Hi all - the ratings system has been around for a while and we see different people using it for different reasons - some people rate their own outfits as reminders of what they have created that they like best, some use it to rate other's outfits as votes of encouragement / positive feedback.... and others of course use it to boost their own ratings. We do not run contests off of ratings, for that precise reason - it's too hard to quantify the ratings fairly. However, we see the value in assigning some sort of positive feedback either internally or externally..... I wouldn't focus on it too much if you are a core user of CC - it works well now as an easy way to hook people into the site and get them engaged, even on a cursory basis.

And the most stylish and most active lists are compilations of a bunch of variables, including how often people rate items, post in the forums or on people's outfits or pages.... and a couple of other similar metrics. The challenge as I said above is making sure people whom are new to the site can find a way to get in easily..... with the ones who are experts being engaged and satisfied for their purposes...... ideas on how to make it work better are welcome as always!! xx Chris
 
 
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Post #14 (Apr 5 2010, 12:26 AM)
Miss_P
City: Brisbane Queensland, Australia


I just taught my M-I-L how to use this site yesterday!! She put me onto this site but wasn't really sure how to use it, so I gave her lots of tips....She's 69 and is a real fashionista!! So hopefully she will be as hooked as I am :)
 
 
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Post #15 (Apr 5 2010, 04:47 AM)
Lcs
City: USA


Some very classy person just decided to give a couple of my outfits super low ratings to drag down the 5's. How kind of them.
 
 
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Post #16 (Apr 5 2010, 04:26 PM)
mkw013000
City: West PA


Lcs: It happens, don't take it personally. I rate my stuff based on what I like to wear. It bugs me when people give me crappy ratings without telling me why but if you let it get to you you'll eventually avoid the site completely. *I* love your outfits ;)
 
 
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Post #17 (Apr 5 2010, 05:17 PM)
Lcs
City: USA


Thanks for the kind words. I don't let it get to me too much. I just can't stand when people are rude for no reason, that's all.
 
 
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Post #18 (Aug 12 2012, 12:06 PM)
redletter
City: San Francisco


There's no real upside to anonymous ratings. And a low rating without a comment doesn't really serve a purpose. I'd rather see useful features and intuitive interface first, and the "nice to haves" can be added later.
 
 
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Post #19 (Aug 21 2012, 03:32 AM)
psychostorm
City: Where The Wild Things Are


Agreed, redletter. I think people have been put off CC because of it, too- I've seen some comments to that effect, which is really sad.
 
 
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Post #20 (Dec 12 2012, 05:35 PM)
wgp
City: fuzhou


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